tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23938076.post382578702110191562..comments2023-10-15T10:48:01.870-04:00Comments on Roxie's World: It's 3 a.m.Roxie Smith Lindemannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06455529922082930949noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23938076.post-34675240965653994682008-08-22T08:48:00.000-04:002008-08-22T08:48:00.000-04:00Couldn't agree more with you, Historiann, as far a...Couldn't agree more with you, Historiann, as far as MM's suggestion of Caroline Kennedy. Give me a break. . . .oh no, MM doesn't do that for women, does he? And Eden's innuendo, I think you've got it right about McCain waiting and him possibly choosing someone like Susan Collins if Obama doesn't have the courage to do the smart and best thing. Eitan, I hope your guy comes through: if he chooses HRC, that would be a practical way of giving us hope by offering real change.<BR/><BR/>We'll soon know (or we better -- this "I made up my mind but I'm not telling" is getting really, REALLY old).<BR/><BR/>In peace,<BR/>GooseMartha Nell Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10066686045532002283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23938076.post-76191448392706742212008-08-21T23:05:00.000-04:002008-08-21T23:05:00.000-04:00Caroline Kennedy? Man, that really brings Michael...Caroline Kennedy? Man, that really brings Michael Moore down several notches in my mind. (When he thinks "woman in politics," he thinks "Caroline Kennedy?")<BR/><BR/>Talk about patronizing. I guess he just can't be bothered to get to know any of the actual women in congress, the Senate, or in governor's mansions across the country. (Is it because there are too many for his tiny little mind to keep track of, or too few for him to take seriously?)<BR/><BR/>And thanks for the linky love!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23938076.post-76426182117956820542008-08-21T19:43:00.000-04:002008-08-21T19:43:00.000-04:00From your mouths (er, fingertips?) to Obama's (big...From your mouths (er, fingertips?) to Obama's (big) ears, Eitan and Eden's Innuendo. We don't know what to think at this point, but we do know what we hope: That Obama is man enough to make the bold, right move rather than the boring, wrong one.<BR/><BR/>Fingers and paws crossed in Roxie's World.Roxie Smith Lindemannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06455529922082930949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23938076.post-18934660922996424902008-08-21T19:26:00.000-04:002008-08-21T19:26:00.000-04:00Right-on analysis, Rox, pretty much the way I see ...Right-on analysis, Rox, pretty much the way I see it too, it's yawn, yawn, yawn, yawn, if it ain't HILLARY! <BR/><BR/>AND what if — I mean, what IF, Obama picks Bayh, say, and the day after the convention McCain comes up with Susan Collins as his VP (I like her!) — and THEY WIN the whole damn thing — mainly because McCain had the guts to do (though I admit it's doubtful) what the Democrats just couldn't muster, what the Dems couldn't even begin to see was their ONLY viable choice! In my view that's why McCain waits — if Obama picks Hillary, he won't go that way, but if Hillary's not on the ticket, and he picks a centrist woman VP, he may have it made.<BR/><BR/>hugs,<BR/>eiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23938076.post-84480295218365520612008-08-21T16:06:00.000-04:002008-08-21T16:06:00.000-04:00I agree with you wholeheartedly. I like Clark and ...I agree with you wholeheartedly. I like Clark and Biden for the job, but I've warmed to Clinton since the spring, and I think that she and (gasp!) Bill would be a huge asset to Obama over the next 75 days and 8 years.<BR/><BR/>It would be an act of both pragmatism and political courage to choose her at this point, and I hope to high heaven that if Caroline Kennedy has done even the tiniest favor to Obama as his chief VP vetter, it's reminding him of what her brave and savvy father did at the convention 48 short years ago.Eitanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06048819747086690385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23938076.post-45482242458992686002008-08-21T11:12:00.000-04:002008-08-21T11:12:00.000-04:00Well Rox, I'm sure it will come as no surprise to ...Well Rox, I'm sure it will come as no surprise to hear that I agree with you. Yeah, 'cept I don't know what "imagined perfection" Obama could possibly have in mind: Sebelius (anti-choice Republican wannabe in a Democrat's costume), Bayh (ok, but YAWN. . .), Kaine (nice enough but anti-choice and, though the NYT tried to convince us he's "charismatic," we see him on tv enough around here to burst out laughing and wonder if they lost their dictionaries when they tried to affix that moniker), Biden (hair plugs 'r us and maybe his plugged contemporary Bruce Springsteen will let him join him on stage). None of those can be called "imagined perfection," nor can Michael Moore's suggestion of Caroline Kennedy. Bill Richardson evidently has a zipper problem, but even if he didn't you can't say that he's exactly inspiring; and, his tendency to say "sexual preference" makes an ugly companion for Obama's "lifestyle" gaffes, both of which are all the more unattractive because neither seems to have any notion about why such terminology insults the queer. SO. . .no imagined perfection that I can see or think of. SHE, on the other hand, would be the choice of a practical visionary.<BR/><BR/>All this week I've been watching panicking Obamites declare everything from "maybe it's time he thought about HER" to "oh, many of us have mobile phones and we're not picked up by the polls." To that last I ask: how is it then that polls consistently overestimated Obama support throughout the primaries? Were the Hillary voters not picked up because so many of them only have mobile phones? Huh?<BR/><BR/>So, Obama needs to act from REAL, not faux, confidence, make a hard-headed decision, and say clearly to all of those jackass Democratic leaders who implored him to run in order to beat the bitch, "she's my choice for VP; we need her." Problem is. . .I've never been persuaded that he has that level of confidence. But that decision on his part would go a long way toward beginning to put some CONTENT into his rhetoric. And unlike his propensity for stammering through let's-take-as-little-of-a-stand-as-possible answers, Hillary is very good on her feet, giving the sound bite answer first and then elaborating the complex details (rather than his meandering through "nuanced" explanations and never quite delivering a sound bite).<BR/><BR/>He also needs someone who is tough enough, someone who will get him off of his "racism! racism!" and/or "that was a joke" VERY TIRED lines, lines, neither of which will make him a winner in November. He needs someone who will thoughtfully and helpfully remind him that the presidency is not for stars who leave fans starry-eyed: it's for hard-working, complex-thinking, problem-solving leaders, leaders who are team players. Hillary Rodham Clinton has proved herself to be a mature, brilliant team player. Let's hope that he didn't let it get too late for her to say yes.<BR/><BR/>What's important is winning in November: none of the other VP choices being floated, not even Gore, can help the Dems get closer to that. Obama should be trouncing McCain in the polls and instead he's either statistically tied or behind. CONTENT, COURAGE, and HRC needed. (Oh, and the media need to get a grip and realize that HRC supporters are not simply a bunch of bitter middle-aged women; the demographics of her supporters are much more complex than that.)<BR/><BR/>Always yours,<BR/>GooseMartha Nell Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10066686045532002283noreply@blogger.com